P2654 WG Minutes - 2021-01-25

Minutes of P2654 Working Group Meeting No.94, 2021-01-25

Meeting called to order: 11:05 AM EST

The slide references relate to the pack used during this meeting, located here: http://files.sjtag.org/P2654WG/P2654_Meeting_94.pdf

The cumulative reference pack is located here: http://files.sjtag.org/P2654WG/P2654_Reference_Pack.pptx (updated Dec 31, 2020)

iMeetCentral site: https://ieee-sa.imeetcentral.com/sjtag-sg/ 

1. Roll Call

Ian McIntosh (Leonardo) (chair)
Terry Duepner (National Instruments)
Heiko Ehrenberg (GOEPEL Electronics) (joined 11:06)
Brian Erickson (JTAG Technologies)
Peter Horwood (Digital Development Consultants Ltd) (joined 11:10)
Joel Irby (AMD)
Richard Pistor (Curtiss-Wright)
Jon Stewart (Dell)
Brad Van Treuren (VT Enterprises Consulting Services)
Louis Ungar (A.T.E. Solutions)
Carl Walker (Cisco Systems)

Guests:
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By email (non-attendees):
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Excused:
Eric Cormack (DFT Solutions)
Bill Huynh (Marvell Inc.)
Tom Thompson (for IEEE)

2. Agenda

  • Joel moved to accept the agenda, seconded by Brad, no objections.

3. IEEE Patent Slides

  • {Slides 5-10}
  • Patent and Copyright slides reviewed without comment.

4. Review and Approve Previous Minutes

  • {Slide 11}
  • Meeting #93, January 18 (draft circulated January 18)
    • No corrections noted.
    • Brad moved to approve, Joel seconded, no objections or abstentions → minutes approved.

5. Review Open Action Items

  • {Slide 12}
    • [91.1] Ian: Check with Tom Thompson on using deputies to support Secretary role.
      • Either adopt a Recording Secretary in addition to an Administrative Secretary (where both need to be IEEE-SA members)(requires P&P update) or minimise content of minutes.
      • Unsure if slides used during the meeting and referenced by minutes constitute part of the minutes or attachments to the minutes.  ONGOING
    • Action Item Register: http://files.sjtag.org/P2654WG/ActionItemRegister.xlsx

6. Inter-group Collaboration

  • {Slide 14}
  • 1149.7 is about 80% through comment responses, may take one more meeting.
  • TTSC agenda is due to be published Wednesday (27th). 

7. Discussion Topics

7 a) Rules required (or scope of rules) in standard

  • {Slide 15}
  • Bullet points presented as discussion starters.
  • No questions arising from January 18 notes.
  • Appears to be a decoupling of "Rules" from "Applications": Rules are independent of programmed state but applications (what you can do) are dependent on programmed state.
  • Maybe can't define what the rules are yet, but ought to be able say what rules should be aiming to do.
  • Firstly, should be definitive about what needs to be described.
    • What the "entities" (device, board, sub-system, etc.) comprise
      • Software Interfaces
      • Dependencies
      • Category
      • Hardware Interfaces
  • A number of detail points emerge for each of these headings (detailed on slides 27-29); some particular points:
    • "Entities" here are "nodes" in the topology.
    • Client and Host Interfaces considered as the external facing interfaces of the entity.
    • Transformation Strategy Interface is a means to plug in an externally described transformation algorithm for that entity.
    • Entities can be categorised by broad behaviour. Brad's demonstration (WIP) proposes a number of such categories.
    • Within Hardware Interfaces, unsure if things like gated or selective clocks are necessarily part of the required entity description. 
  • Can we assume that all end-point targets can be represented or considered as "registers" in some form?

8. Any Other Business

  • {Slide 16}
  • None.

9. Today's Key Takeaways

  • None. 

10. Glossary Terms from This Meeting

  • None.
  • Carried over:
    • System Element.
    • System Resource.
    • 'System' needs the concept of a controller capability added.
    • "Filtering" may need to be defined.
    • "Translation" may need to be defined.
    • "Interface" is missing.
      • No obvious IEEE accepted definition.
      • 1687 has definitions for specialised forms: Device Interface and Instrument Interface.
      • We may need specialised forms for Software Interface and Hardware Interface.
      • "Interface" is overloaded and requires disambiguation.
    • 1687.1: Transformation.
    • IEEE 1856: Sense - "Sensor" done, Acquire, Analyze not really defined.
    • Device - do we mean a packaged device? May be many devices in a package. "Device" is often used as a modifier, e.g. "device package", "device identification".
    • Use Case Context, Application Context
    • Legacy Infrastructure, SJTAG Infrastructure (placeholders for now, really for working group to define).
    • "Generators": May need to be qualified as "Test Generators" (used by the integrator/tester) and "Model Generators" (used by IP providers, interface designers, etc.).
    • AccessLink and DataLink descriptions will need to be revised.
    • See P1687.1's definitions on Slide 31 of the pack presented by Jeff Rearick on Jan 14, 2019.
    • "State", "Vector", "Sequence" and "Pattern" as proposed at April 8, 2019 meeting.
    • "Event", "Access Interface" as proposed at April 15, 2019 meeting.
    • 'Port' needs to be developed.

11. Schedule next meeting

  • February 1, 2021

12. Topic for next meeting

  • Secretary role
  • Rules: Use of the Descriptions (possibly extend Descriptions)

13. Reminders

  • Reiterate: Michele Portolan has proposed a workshop at ETS 2021 but no offers of contributions so far. Related to a special session of papers to be run by Martin Keim.

14. List New Action Items

  • None.

15. Adjourn

  • Brian moved to adjourn, seconded by Peter.
  • Meeting adjourned at 12:03 PM EST

Respectfully submitted,
Ian McIntosh